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Magic, Energy & Ecstasy Outside the Seminar Room: Post-#Shine Wrap Up pt 3

(this is part 3 of the Post-#Shine Wrap Up … check out part 1: Do It With Your Eyes Open & Be Awesome and part 2: Speaking, Bullsh*t, and Billionaires)

More of what I learned after 5 days in Las Vegas:

The Magic Happens Outside of the Seminar Room

Why is it that most of the time we go to a big seminar or conference, we leave saying things like:

“the networking was good, but …”

and yet we keep going back for more?

Big events are inefficient, a waste of environmental resources, and generally a huge expense of time and money for everyone involved. And many events aren’t even profitable for the organizers.

Should we drop live events all together?

Are events just a waste of our time? Can they be replaced by online learning and social networking?

No.

Here’s what is unique about live events: the physical experience & the human connection.

The are certain transformations that can only be had through immersion and physical experience. At Marie Forleo’s Rich Happy & Hot Live, I had one of those transformations through the physical training of Committed Impulse designed by Marie’s fiance, Josh Pais. (Sorry, that transformation is still unbloggable … hopefully I’ll be in a place where I can share that soon.) And here at the Celebrating Women: Regarding Ecstasy & Power seminar in Los Angeles, I’m experiencing another fundamental transformation. (Post coming soon.)

But learning the blueprint or the 7 steps or the 3 strategies or the secret tactic … that does not require a physical experience.

We don’t need to get on a plane for information. Information can easily be learned through a book, video, blog, class, or other more efficient learning method.

So if you’re not looking for transformation, why go to the event, seminar, or conference?

For the human connection.

Here’s the thing. Even I know that woman does not live by twitter alone.

You can social network with individuals in your tribe to make that initial connection. But until we meet each other in person, even if only for a moment, we cannot know each other’s truth.

We must physically be in each other’s presence to feel each other’s energy, to see if our online personas match our real state of being.

And where that magic happens is outside the seminar room.

In hallways, over lunch, in bars, at tweetups, over dinner.

Walking on Las Vegas Boulevard watching the Treasure Island show while discussing the dark side of philosophy. Analyzing our marriages and sharing revolutionary theories of marketing after 5 martinis at the Double Helix. Strategizing our next events and trading rumors about each other at a pj party in a suite at the Pallazzo.

So should you go to that next big event?

Go to the city where the event is taking place.

If it is a real training, and you’re looking for transformation, go inside the room.

But you don’t have to go inside to get the human connection.

If you’re looking for me at the big event, I’m not inside the room. I’m leaning against the wall charging my iPhone. I’m at Starbucks. I’m in a bar. I’m at the tweetup. I’m on an adventure. I’m in the flow. I’m wandering around in the real world.

And I’m waiting for you. Come and find me. Or send me a tweet, and I’ll come find you.

Tweeting From the Ladies Room, and I’m Not Alone

I used to think there was something wrong with me.

You see, sometimes I have another reason for avoiding going inside the seminar room. Sometimes you won’t find me inside because I’m hiding from you.

I’ve spent quality time hiding in bathroom stalls of conference centers, chamber halls, hotels, and meeting rooms all over this country. And I mean major quality time. Like 20 minutes at a pop, pretending I’m having a bathroom problem of some sort so I can just be alone.

Because the thing is, you people freak me out.

Not that I don’t love you, because I do. Not that I don’t want to talk to you, because I do.

But because the chaotic energy of dozens (hundreds! thousands!) of people who I may or may not be responsible for completely overwhelms my system. Makes me useless. Unable to open up. Unable to connect.

So I hide in the bathroom. Or go to my hotel room and order room service. Or flee the seminar to pace Las Vegas Boulevard.

When I say that I’m an introvert, you disagree, saying: “but you love people! you’re outgoing! you’re a speaker!” But you’re missing my point.

It’s all about the energy.

I can’t even explain how much you all affect me.

Well, except to a few of you who already understand.

When I was outside of the seminar room in Vegas, a few of the women I connected with were sensitive like me, escaping the overwhelm of 450 to find connection with each other. We discussed how we can’t deal with a room full of networking desperation. How we’d rather make powerful, personal connections with small groups of clients or colleagues than ever be inside a huge event. Not just because of the power of intimate connection, but because the idea of a huge group of chaotic people was overwhelming.

What I was reminded of in Vegas is that I’m not alone.

There’s a certain percentage of us who are exquisitely sensitive to energy. Suffering. Chaos. Confusion. Enlightenment. Joy. Passion. Ecstasy. Everything.

And that’s what makes us powerful.

Intuitive. Able to influence people within a few minutes of speaking with them. Able to create a particular magic, just by walking into a room.

But that’s also why many of us shut down. Freak out. Run away. Avoid.

So in this post I’m simply sending a message.

For those of you who don’t get what I’m taking about, just understand that for some of us, this is part of our truth. And support us when we get overwhelmed. When we take off early without saying goodbye. When we flake out on the tweetup. When we refuse to dive into the chaos of the conference center expo.

And for those of you who know exactly what I’m talking about, just know that you are not alone. There is nothing wrong with you.

You are awesome. This is part of your purpose.

And don’t forget to say hi to me in the ladies room.

(Part 4 coming soon … something about using fanciness to cover up the crap & me not having a home. We’ll see how it flushes itself out …)

Related posts:

  1. Do It With Your Eyes Open & Be Awesome: Post-#Shine Wrap Up, pt 1
  2. Speaking, Bullsh*t, and Billionaires: Post-#Shine Wrap Up pt 2
  3. How to Prevent Seminar Overload
  4. And the LYT Show Goes On, Even From the Hospital Room
  5. Finding Ecstasy in Ordinary Life
  • http://elizabethpottsweinstein.com ElizabethPW

    I'm really nervous about this post, like some sort of sophomore slump intimidation. lol.

  • catherinecaine

    I don't have this experience because I am a complete extrovert; I tend to feel a little sad and deflated without other people's energy. I don't really understand introversion but I've gotten used to it, living with a super-introverted boyfriend. On the rare occasions I throw a party I give him outs, knowing that he can “go to the shops to get more salsa” any time he likes. He's happy, I'm happy, and we have a better party.

    The tricky part is when someone who comes across as outgoing, bright and energetic (like yourself!) needs that same retreat option. I have no clues to go by, and in a few cases, mostly many years in the past, I've probably pestered people (alliterative!), not realising that they need some away time. How do you handle that situation?

    Catherine

  • http://www.evelynkalinosky.com/ Evelyn Kalinosky

    Elizabeth:

    I used to think there was something really wrong with me because I get so overwhelmed in a crowd of people. Too many sensations. Too much undercurrent of emotion. Too much energy. Too much everything. Like you, I love people and love to connect, but there is a part of me that is so sensitive to the energy of others that to be in a room with too many people overloads my system and renders me paralyzed. I've come to learn there's a word for it – being an “empath.” I would find myself doing the very things you mentioned: disappearing in the middle of a seminar or conference to take a walk, hide out in the bathroom, go to my room and order room service at night instead of meeting up with more people – anything that would help me to regain my equilibrium.

    For me, the human connection is a necessity – there is no equivalent to sitting down face-to-face and sharing your experience with another. I've just learned to be more understanding with myself when I need that alone time to regroup, recharge, reflect, and that I do better in small groups where I can get to know the people I'm talking to beyond the professional face we often wear at networking or business functions.

    Great post! Thanks for your honesty and for reminding me and others that our experience is genuine and that we're not alone – even when we want to be.

  • http://www.coachtia.com/ Coach T.I.A

    Ha! I'm like that even in daily life Missy!

    Sometimes, I go anywhere between 2 to 4 days without even SEEING another person's face. Working from home means I can hide away in my little world and not have to be social all the time.

    I appear to be a very extroverted person (and when I'm out there, I'm OUT there) but perhaps, introverted extrovert describes me better. Networking events almost make me gag – way too much stimulation for me – and yet, I'm open to doing it in a small way, someday.

    Like I said on FB, good on ya for baring it all sister :) Tia @TiaSparkles

  • http://EarthandSoulStudios.com/blog Lisa Hines

    Wow that was a very introspective blog post. I agree with making a few really good connections. Surely, we can't make a strong connection with everyone. I suppose if I went to numerous events, I would probably find the outside more interesting. I probably only go to one event per year, maybe two. Thus, my involvement with the inside, just as much as the outside, was important for me. I sat next to some really awesome people that I might not have had a chance to meet and know.

    It was so awesome to get home in my own world after being around so much stimuli. Too much input creates overload on the brain. That includes Las Vegas – high stimulus city. I need the silence that nature brings without the hustle and bustle around me. I feel so lucky to have that at home. But, then on the flip side, I wish there was more action. Maybe it's just like anything: moderation.

    I look forward to hearing about your latest conference. And…I enjoyed *reading* your blog :)

  • Writergrrl

    What a(nother) fantastic post…and again I'm struck by similarities. Yeah, I totally know what you mean about that overwhelming need to duck out, and, well, run. Unfortunately, I think I've let this hold me back rather than motivate me to move forward (a personal transformational goal). I love how authentic you are being with this series of posts…and feel blessed that I happened to discover your blog just as you were ready to let all of this out! Keep it coming (and stuff the people who may flee from Truth or Bulls**t in the subject line, they aren't your tribe anyhow)!!

  • elizabethgenco

    I totally get the energy overload thing – and how. I have had some incredibly bad experiences where I HAVE collapsed in a heap, completely pummeled from the energy of the event – and that was with “just” 200 people.

    This happened earlier this year, about 5 months ago, at one of my favorite events – not an Internet Marketing thing, but an industry event with some of my metaphysically-minded peeps. By the end of it, I was just, “GET ME OUT OF HERE.”

    After 30+ years of empathic… whatever, I'm only just now equipping myself with the tools to deal with it and take care of myself.

  • http://elizabethpottsweinstein.com ElizabethPW

    Catherine – really, it's just an awareness on both sides. I need to be aware that someone like you has no idea that I'm freaking out … and for the extroverts to understand that there are weird outgoing introverts like me. :) but don't worry, if you see me, I'll tell you if I need to fly the coop. ;)

  • http://elizabethpottsweinstein.com ElizabethPW

    And thank god that we have figured out what is going on w/ us & how to manage it! (I heard someone say how many sensitive people choose to leave the planet b/c they just can't handle being so sensitive to human suffering … hopefully as this gets discussed more and more, people can learn how to exist on this earth with us.)

  • http://www.BeAwesomeOnline.com Catherine Caine

    It's a deal!

  • http://elizabethpottsweinstein.com ElizabethPW

    And I've been to *tons* of events. So my thoughts are definitely from that perspective.

  • http://elizabethpottsweinstein.com ElizabethPW

    damn straight. ;)

  • http://elizabethpottsweinstein.com ElizabethPW

    And you know, there's room for some sort of specific discussion (tools? interviews?) about this, how empathic / introvert / sensitive / etc. people can deal with networking & events. Hum.

  • http://TheTinySoprano.com/ Natalie Christie

    OK, no nervousness allowed. :)
    You have articulated what many of us feel going to these kind of events where the energy in the room can't match the intimacy and genuine connection found on the fringes.
    And there is always an enhanced sensitivity not just to the energies and needs of others but also to yourself. It's not running away – it's being assertive enough to take time out alone to emotionally recharge.
    Thank you for sharing…

  • carolmcclelland

    Elaine Aron wrote a great book about being a highly sensitive person…the self-assessment on her site was an eye opener for me. It helped me understand my reaction to high energy situations, loud environments, constant motion, and constant social contact..even shopping malls are too much for me. Elaine's research shows that you can be highly sensitive whether you are an extrovert or an introvert…she found they are completely different dimensions. So often our sensitivities, what ever they are, are diminished by those around us. It makes us question what we are experiencing.

    It's taken me some time, but I'm far better at traveling, attending conferences as an exhibitor, or speaking at large events. I find I have to pace myself and give myself time when I first arrive to settle into a space. Even having another person with me who I can interact with helps me keep a near focus rather than taking everything in.

    I'm definitely still think about it, but I don't let it stop me as much as I used to.

  • http://virtualeventsuccess.com Leesa Barnes

    Like me, Elizabeth is an extroverted introvert and I'm one of those types who are sensitive to the energy in the room. Very sensitive. It's why I don't share my hotel room when I attend events because I tend to take on the energy of the many people around me, then collapse on my hotel bed completely naked as I mentally unwind.

    Whoops, TMI?

    Anyways, my point is that not everyone can be perky and happy while at events. I had a woman who is my “fan” tell me at Shine that I was “arrogant”. This after I asked my VA and this lady to go ahead & grab a table for dinner while I chatted privately with my former coach. My VA understood because she's known me for 3-years and understands that when I feel that things are disorganized and confusing, I enter into my “masculine energy” and become bossy and abrupt. This lady, however, had become accustomed to my perky, happy attitude that she's heard on my various teleclasses and couldn't understand that I'm really just as human as she is and that yes, I'm allowed to feel mentally tired.

    I guess that's why Ali has a bodyguard at her events – to protect her from people's energy and to help maintain a perception of who she is. And frankly, I don't blame her. Because the danger of attending these type of events is that we expect our idols, our colleagues and our fans to be chipper and joyful at every interaction. We expect them to gleefully give us a hug and say “I'm so glad to meet you.” And when that doesn't happen because the person is just mentally exhausted or overwhelmed by the energy around them, we call them “pretentious”, “uncaring”, or just plain “out of touch.”

    So, the next time you (a collective you) attends an event, just remember that some completely retreat. Others, like me & Elizabeth, engage, then retreat. And people like Catherine completely engage and feel empty if they're not still engaging when the lights are turned off. And that's okay. No name calling please ;)

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  • http://www.coachtia.com/ Coach T.I.A

    I hear you Leesa (I'm one of the E-Is myself), and I'm also thinking that maybe the lady does understand you're human, she just may not have realised what was going on with you and that you needed time out (your VA did cos she knows 'knows' you).

    We can all have misconceptions / make a mistake so maybe if you'd told her how you were feeling she wld've understood and totally supported you? :) Just a thought .. I wasn't there so don't know if she said/did more to upset you, just going by what you said here.

    Awareness is definitely key, some of us are good at sensing peoples emotions, others, not so much. I reckon we should create a universal symbol for “not now, please” like a button with a little person holding a sign saying “I'd love to but later” .. LOL.. now that would be awesome!! :D

  • http://virtualeventsuccess.com Leesa Barnes

    I love your idea of a universal sign for “not now.” Of course, there is a universal sign, but it's not at all polite ;)

  • mujibasalaamparker

    Hi everyone, it is amazing how different some people interpret and reflect on the same situations. I am the “fan” that Leesa mentioned, but yet I'm not a fan. I told her that I had heard of her through someone we both know and that I didn't listen in on the joint teleseminar the two of them had.

    The reason I'm responding is simply because the story was not accurate. Leesa had just mentioned that some of Ali's mentees were arrogant and I told Leesa that I felt that she had just acted arrogantly before dinner and not when I met and talked with her before. The reason I shared this with Leesa was to help her be more conscious of how she speaks to people, especially ones that she doesn't know well.

    I don't really want to go back and forth with this, but I want to wish Leesa well. By the way, I loved Shine and plan to go back next year. It was a very positive experience for me and I got a lot of good ideas from the event.

  • http://communicatevalue.com Christine Gallagher

    “I’m leaning against the wall charging my iPhone.”

    Ha! I can attest to this, that's how I met Elizabeth at Shine–in the hallway. Yup, she was charging her iPhone. :-) We discussed the hiding-in-bathroom thing too. Totally get that.

    Oh, and Leesa–who I met also for the first time at Shine–may have not been what others “expected” or whatever, but who cares? I went and gave her a hug because as someone I “follow” online I sensed/knew she had a great energy about her. And she thanked me for giving her a hug. Because she's cool like that. ;-)

    Thanks for another great post EPW.

  • http://www.intheflowcoaching.com/blog Renita Kalhorn

    I also appreciate the frankness of this post (and series). Thanks, Elizabeth, for expressing how apparently many of us introverts feel!

    Last year, I went to Ali's Blueprint Workshop, my first multiple-day industry event, and I was apprehensive about being surrounded by people all day, every day with little downtime. As it turned out, I was so charged up and excited by the positive energy of the event, it wasn't much of an issue, and most of the times I went to the bathroom it was because I really had to go. ;-)

    I've realized that I can build up my stamina by pushing past my comfort zone at smaller networking events/meetings and “training” for big conferences/events just like I would push myself in my daily workouts if preparing for a triathlon.

  • http://virtualeventsuccess.com Leesa Barnes

    Yup, like you said, we remember different details about the same event. I did, however, learn a valuable lesson from my interaction with you and I do want to thank you for that.

  • http://twitter.com/orangemathtutor Jane Vedell

    I can totally enjoy an event/work or anything and feel f

  • Cook-Dog

    Hey Leesa,

    What is the mere ungrateful of your purpose is ?

  • http://www.compellingmarketingblog.com TracyNeedham

    Wow, that's so dead on. I'm an introvert who has to be “on” when I go to events with a lot of people I don't know–whether it's seminars or local meetings. And it's exhausting. That's why (like Leesa) I prefer to have my own room at these things. And sometimes I flake out on going to things if I feel like I just can't be on.

    At the last 2 seminars I attended I skipped one session a day and just hung out in my room. The people I was attending with thought I was nuts but it did help some.

    But it's funny–when I say I'm shy to people who know me they argue and say I'm not. (Like I wouldn't know, right?!) Because I'm definitely *not* shy if I'm with people I feel comfortable with.

    Another great post, Elizabeth!

  • drmommy

    OH MY GOODNESS!!! I can so totally relate! I went to my very first conference in September and actually had more fun and made more human connections outside of the sessions. Many thought I was being a (snob) for not attending the sessions. But honestly my entire reason for going to the conference was to make connections and build on relationships that began online.

    I love the way you think and hope to connect with you in person one day too :)

  • http://www.mikestenger.com Mike Stenger

    Woo! You've been killing it these last several posts Elizabeth! That experience and human connection is incredibly powerful, the same as having a tweetup. You've never seen them in person before, just saw & engaged with them via computer screen and now you see who they are in real life and get to build that deeper connection.

    Experience is also how we learn best. You can read all you want to about something but I guarantee if that same course or whatever it was, was in seminar form and you attended, you'd retain loads more. And I can't blame ya for wanting to be alone at times and getting freaked out by all the people and the massive energy. It can get overwhelming, that's for sure and honestly, we're not all completely “together” upstairs :-)

    Anyways, I'll say hi but just open the door and yell it. Don't wanna be looked at like a weirdo….wait

  • http://www.bestbizwebsitesolutions.com jhaubein

    Man your posts are rocking! And are you my lost sister? ;) I actually go back and forth on whether I'm an introvert or extrovert. I actually really like sharing a hotel room when I'm at events and enjoy the energy of the events. But I used to be really shy when I was younger and it's like I taught myself how to be outgoing now.

    I don't normally need to time away during the event, but once I get back I usually am exhausted.

    I was actually disappointed I wasn't going to Shine because of the networking. I had made the decision that no more live events other than the mastermind group I'm a part of. But I had such a great time in Las Vegas with you and others at Scott's tweetup wanted to get together with everyone again. But then is it worth the money to go just for networking?

    And I was talking with a friend the other day and he said how when he goes to live events he doesn't expect to learn anything he's just there for the networking. If I think about it one of the big benefits of the mastermind group I'm in is the other people and the connections and networking they bring.

    Like they say business is about relationships!

    But I have to say I think social media, virtual events, local networking, and the economy are chaning the live event scenes.

  • http://www.coachtia.com/ Coach T.I.A

    Bwahahaahhaaha!!! That just made me snort into my oats ;)

  • http://giuliettathemuse.com/blog giulietta

    Enjoyable post Elizabeth. I can feel overwhelmed too at events, mainly by the work talk! One thing I try not to do is walk up to folks and say, “what do you do.” It's not my thing at networking events and folks don't really want to hear it. Yet, everyone walks around asking it!

    I'd rather just have a conversation about life and go from there. Like to keep it natural.

    Thx. Giulietta

  • isabelparlett

    Ha, ha. Me too to event overwhelm, to being an outgoing introvert, and yes to collapsing naked on the bed.

  • isabelparlett

    Yes, I used to describe events this way:

    Day One: I love everyone.
    Day Two: I am mellow and pleased to be with everyone.
    Day Three: I hate everyone and can't wait to be home.

    I've gotten much better at managing my energy since then and have learned to step out as soon as I can't be present in the room. At one event earlier this year, I did meditation and a sound healing every break, at another, I left the room when a guest speaker asked us to go into a meditative space and then started shouting at us.

    My “good girl” wants to stay in the room and learn everything I can but more and more I trust if I need to be there or not.

  • mahalamazerov

    I would truly love some specific discussions of how to manage the overwhelm. & I don't mean stating the obvious – take breaks, get a room to yourself. (But then, I can count on you to go beyond obvious, can't I?)

    I so want to go to some of the women, blogger, solopreneur programs just to meet face to face. But just reading the program / venue descriptions give me heart failure.

    How do you manage?

  • http://twitter.com/5minutesformom 5minutesformom

    I hear you on so many levels.

    Yes, conferences and events are entirely about the human connections. At the last Stompernet Live event I attended, I missed almost all the formal sessions but I learned tons and made great connections.

    At BlogHer 2009, I didn't attend a single session, but I think I got more out of that conference than anyone.

    The list goes on… IRL events can be life changing.

    About the introvert thing, I totally get this. I am such an extrovert, and nobody believes me when I say I can be introverted too… I might even join you in the bathroom. LOL

    Susan

  • http://www.5minutesformom.com/ Susan (5 Minutes For Mom)

    I hear you on so many levels.

    Yes, conferences and events are entirely about the human connections. At the last Stompernet Live event I attended, I missed almost all the formal sessions but I learned tons and made great connections.

    At BlogHer 2009, I didn't attend a single session, but I think I got more out of that conference than anyone.

    The list goes on… IRL events can be life changing.

    About the introvert thing, I totally get this. I am such an extrovert, and nobody believes me when I say I can be introverted too… I might even join you in the bathroom. LOL

    Susan

  • peggieA

    Elizabeth — you bring out something amazing here and I know you always say you're not a woo-woo gal, but you are. You're a highly sensitive person (read the book, it's great) and HSPs are often quite adept at accessing their intuition and even their psychic abilities. You have an antennae for the message of the Divine (or whatever you want to call it) and the gift comes through you. (never read your hands but I've got a pretty clear picture of them all the same – because you are so willing to live your truth)

    This is not to say that the extroverts who get energy FROM the crowd are not capable of tuning into their “woo-woo” side, it just may be harder to distinguish their energy from someone else's.
    Thanks for bringing it up!

  • http://elizabethpottsweinstein.com ElizabethPW

    Thanks Peggie – you know I think of myself as a bridge between the woo woo and down to earth, like a translator between those two worlds.

    My life purpose from my hands is Big Shot in the Spotlight. :)

  • peggieA

    And I suspect, in hand analysis parlance, your lesson is about using your voice/trust/surrender/intimacy …and you're in the school of service. Anyway, I'm enjoying the discussion here (I usually leave my first comment BEFORE reading all the others so I don't get all wigged out and feel like I'm just saying “me too” because I like to THINK I'm always original – even though I know the collective consciousness precedes my ideas)

    This just reminded me of when I used to volunteer with my sorority on a National Level and we had a huge conference every year. Since we were volunteers and leaders, we were expected to show up at all the sessions, but there were always times in the day when I'd have to sneak off to my room. And the best friends from those times are the ones that I hung out with OUTSIDE the conference and meeting sessions. Thanks for that memory!

  • http://elizabethpottsweinstein.com ElizabethPW

    my life lesson is guilt/self-worth … but since I have Spotlight as a gift marker on both hands, I suspect the combination of the two is my big thing about speaking my truth :)

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  • http://www.deniseduffieldthomas.com/ Denise Duffield-Thomas

    Wow – I couldn't go to the party for that reason. I couldn't handle the energy in the room. I was at a big male driven sales event recently and the energy was horrible. I could feel everyone's stress about signing up to the upsell. “Will I? Won't I?” I felt it all.

    I actually didn't feel the same horribleness at Shine – it was a much softer sell than MANY events I've been to….

    But I get what you mean – I'm an introvert extrovert, so sometimes I just want to hide too.